Our newest star, Wayne Lim
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"..his compositions are better than his singing..." -> sounds like Jonathan Lee and Li Ya Ming
Haha, actually for many composers, their compositions are usually better than their singing. Not everyone is like Xiong Tian Ping, Sky Wu, Huang Da Wei, etc who can sing as well as they compose. Ocean Butterflies is also where Kit Chan struck out, but I don't see much problems with her case. For a debut album, I feel it is of at least above-average standards, but perhaps some listeners may have higher expectations than others. But I agree that Zilchster seems to have some comments on Ocean Butterflies' management. I think it will be good for you to feedback to them, because I find your comments quite valid on some points. OB deserves to go further given their contribution to the local music scene, so being a local music supporter like you, I'm sure you would want to see OB go further with improvements, right? 
JJ's singing technique is a bit similar to AhDu, but I will attribute it to the training they got under the same vocal school. Ronald Cheng used to sing so much like Jacky Cheung too (his voice is really similar as well), because he underwent the same training, but after more releases, he started to develop his own singing style, so hopefully it will be the same case for JJ. Dancing is not his forte, just like people will not comment on Sun Yanzi's "dancing" (refer to Lu Guang), so the same reasoning, it will not be fair to comment on JJ's.
Hope my comments didn't offend anyone. Support local music!
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I seriously think it's nothing to do with the record companies...and oso, his voice isn't all that bad...i realli think mani mani mani other more popular singers out there sing far worse than him, but juz becos THOSE "singers" are good-looking, they get to be so cheng gong...jun jie lacks the looks, but i believe his voice, and his musical talent will overcome tt disadvantage..and realli, no one can judge accurately how gd or bad someone's singin is unless u go study vocals or something...like those professionals..onli den will i accept it when u say his voice is bad...
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And u noe wad...his dancing ain't realli tt woody lorz..try dancing that dance in the mtv of jiu shi wo..bet anyone'd look worse den him if u ain't trained b4 in dance lar..he's looks ok wad..like any cool cool guy wiv a gd sense of rhythm...not anithin spectacular if u ain't his fan, but it's most certainly NOT woody..i compared him to those DANCERS dancing behind him..yupz..
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well well well..JJ won the GOLD award for zui jia xin ren jiang in the jing qiu jiang awards, beating singers like Energy and Fan Yi Cheng...need i say more? Way to go JJ!!! -
He won because he's Singaporean thatz all...
Last year between a-du and s.h.e ... s.h.e is definitely much better but then why...
He is nowhere compare to Fan Yichen (just that he can compose only)...but his singing is nowhere compared to Van or even Z-chen...it's just plain favourtism and placate the fans.
The best judge would be the taiwan golden melody awards next year.
JJ doesn't deserve the gold award...at best silver...juz becoz he can compose...xu zhe pei also can compose...also never get gold...becoz he's singaporean lar not becoz he is deserving. -
Hi Zilchster, u are pouring cold water again... sighz..
it is not whether one is popular or not but the efforts put in lor, i din say Van did not put in enough effort, just that JJ deserve the award, u are always pouring cold water on Singapore singers, all i could say is, u look down on them. Look, first u discriminate Dreamz FM, then Ah Du, and then now Jun Jie.. sigh, have prejudice against them then u say, no need to cover up by saying who don deserve this award, like i said earlier, if U are so capable, then go produce an album, we be waiting.. hahahah and see if u could get any awards..
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Well...if u tink i am pouring cold water...maybe coz u support him tatz all...so u tink he deserves it.
He doesn't deserve...he probably got it becoz he's Singaporean and slightly more popular...than say Hu Yan Bin...Hu Yan Bin is MORE DESERVING of the award than JJ sia...
JJ is not the best...i dun tink he was even singing live man...and his dance and the hat...looks like some Vanness Wu rip off... -
hu yan bing more deserving? alright........... well, he is singing live, u can see it from how he sings, unless u can't see it, but too bad, u really can't see it, can't blame anyone..
I don support him lor, just think his songs are alright that it... and i tink u r really pouring cold water.. just admit it lor.. -
Even HK awards which used to be criticised as one big political game by record companies had become far more objective recently due to the pressure by fans and music critics. Taiwan Golden Melody Awards used to be perceived as the most objective among the Asian awards, but the recent few years were a big farce. David Tao not winning anything this year summed up everything. Reason given by the judges was that "he should know what he had done", widely believed to be referring to David's criticisms over the objectiveness and transparency of nominee selection. If next year continues to be like this, I think the awards will lose all credibility altogether.
I would love Hu Yan Bin to win Best Newcomer since I quite like his songs. At least he got one award, but frankly who knows the other China singers besides HYB and Yu Quan? One case of "pork distribution" on play here.
Perhaps the distinction between Best Newcomer and Most Popular Newcomer should be better differentiated. Best to me means of certain level of ability esp in singing. In that aspect, I do not feel Ah-Du is any inferior to S.H.E. for last year's award. S.H.E didn't win Best Newcomer in Taiwan either, it was taken by Kong Ling Qi. If comparing on the same pedestal, Ah-Du will be better than KLQ anyway, so Taiwan Golden Melody Awards showed its subjectiveness again (KLQ's mentor XiaoChong was one of the judges). So I'm quite surprised you even mentioned TW awards as a better judge.
However, I was quite taken by surprise too that JJ won gold. JJ is not bad and can compose, but I thought he will get at most a silver. My choice for gold was actually Van Fan, I personally felt he was better overall. Ability to compose is one matter, good in singing is another. JJ's composing abilities can be judged for the awards of Best Song or Best Producer, etc. I knew 5566 will not win it given the boycott, so the way was clear for Energy to take bronze. Was a little disappointed Z Chen was not in the top 3, but it was rather expected as he had much lower profile in S'pore.
Erm, I think all of them were singing live ba? Who was not singing live? It was actually quite obvious who can sing live and who can't. Ho Yeow Sun was off-key several times in one song and it was not even a dance track. Maybe she is better a studio singer...no offence meant, just my honest opinions.
It's actually a compliment to put JJ the same line as Vanness, because Vanness was known for his dancing. A rip-off meant at least he had some decent moves? Again, I do not feel JJ's dancing should be singled out. Sun YanZi had some ballet dancing training when she was young, but I don't find her dancing any good either.
Take award results with a pinch of salt. It's just a game to distribute pork. What matters more should be the fans' support and album sales. No need to put too much feelings and emotions into it, not worth it lah~ -
Sigh...i have nothing to say..and i DUN BELIEVE judges awarded him the gold award juz cos he's a singaporean...can't be that biased..and obviously he was singing LIVE cos he had to keep adjusting his mic and his voice was like tremblin or something, not up to his usual standard..i heard him live the other time on "zhou mo yue live yue jing cai" or some programme liddat.. and i dun think he got the award cos he's popular..if u realli wan to have a most popular newcomer award...i think it'll b Energy..this kinda boybands wiv cute guys alwaes have lotsa fans, much more than singers who do not look VERI cute but can sing well..quit being prejudiced against local singers..
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hello....i'm new here.....just wanna say lin junjie looked so cute tt day at jin qu jiang...haha....i thought he looked a bit like du de wei...haha....ya, he doesn't really look HANDSOME or anything but quite cute. yupz...his compositions are nice...esp "ji de". for those against him, it is understandable. the first time i heard him sing i was pretty disgusted by the whiny voice...but NOW, as you listen more, his voice is unique in a nice way too. yupz...take the time and give JJ a chance. he'll go a long way.
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No offence Energy fans...(anyway i do buy their albums)...but their live singing was really bad...when they sang duo ai wo yi tian...it was realllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll bad...
Tui Mo Lu was miming...
JJ hui du shu...some parts i felt was miming...sounded EXACTLY what i hear on the radio.
I heard frm my friends when HYS sang...a lot of ppl took toilet break...
Cai Chunjia is very good...wish can see her more...with a better repertoire of songs in say her 2nd album..
Yah...the pork part...well..it explains why a-du and sun yanzi got the best local singer together...
Fish Leong best female vocalist..she deserves it...but at the same time no...the competition was quite even this year.
I still think Van Fan sang the best...his rendition of wang jie's yi chang you xi yi chang meng really touched me a lot.
Z-chen...he sings well...unfortunately...he is better than energy
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Ohhh come on...JJ was singing live during jing qu jiang..told u i think he sounded not as good as usual tt day...if u think it sounds EXACTLY the same as the song on radio..juz shows u nvr listen enuf of his songs...
and yeah,thinking back, the 1st JJ song i heard was chi bang..din think he was realli zai,buden din condemn him oso larz..buden after i heard dong jie,bu dong and jiu shi wo...i thot his voice was fantastic...like i said b4, it may not suit everyone..but it's unique and i think it's nice..and seriously..u cannot say he CAN"T sing at all..it's unfair to him and u'r insulting the one who zai1 pei2 him oso..
as for the other local singers..i think yanzi and Kit Chan r not bad..yanzi's voice is strong and kit is good..tt's undeniable..(hehe, both were frm my sec sch)
as for energy...they were singing live too, tt's y they wun sound as good as they do on the radio wad..they'r new singers afterall..u hafta giv them time to train up their live singing skills...be fair and more understanding lehz...
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ya lor.. unless Zilchster can't SEE it or can't feel it that JJ was singing live..
i also don really kan hao JJ but after his performance in my sch, SP, i find his voice really god and his compositions as well.. he did take part in singing in Jack Neo's show, think is last yr, then he say he compose Ji De i was.. WOW.. but din know was him till my sis told me..
I think JJ really puts in the hard work lo,... u can't condemn him like that, u won't feel good either if pple condemn u as well, right Zilchster? -
His singing is not tat bad...juz tat it reminds me of a lighter version of a du
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hiyo...seriously,their voices sound totally different as far as i know..everyone i know who listens to chi pop agrees wiv me too..unless u mean their STYLE of singing, den mabbe it's quite similar..after, they were trained in the same sch wad..buden if u mean their VOICES...it's totally totally different lorz..
And thot u kept saying his voice not as gd as his compositions? Y the sudden change? -
hmmm...juz realised something..the topic title for this discussion is abit wrong lehz..thot junjie's surname is Lin? or izzit cos it's his english name so become Lim?
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think so lorz...
shld be becuz eng so it's LIM.
anyway, those who like JJ can join this msn grp...Only^JJ... -
hmm...can i pls ask how to join the MSN group?? haha..i noe i'm a bit mountain tortoise...
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http://groups.msn.com/onlyjj
then join lor...u have .NET passport?
think if don't have have to get one b4 can join...